tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post3780049326330908953..comments2023-11-03T09:36:40.604-04:00Comments on Top Shelf: On Brian CampbellHeather B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06796852014625052317noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-3647638606285795652008-01-15T22:27:00.000-05:002008-01-15T22:27:00.000-05:00I read somewhere (probably Bucky) that Brian Campb...I read somewhere (probably Bucky) that Brian Campbell should be up for the good sportmanship award because he only has 2 penalty minutes this season.<BR/><BR/>2 minutes? So no desperation hooks to prevent a goal? No big hits that might end up looking like a penalty (Umberger)? No nasty checks?<BR/><BR/>I think a lot of the time these things come from excess adrenaline, not malice. I guess Campbell uses his up being on the ice 25+ minutes a night.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13129097564605705248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-36365576814261524342008-01-15T15:59:00.000-05:002008-01-15T15:59:00.000-05:00I had pretty much made my peace with Soupy heading...I had pretty much made my peace with Soupy heading out into the big wide world of free agency, but all of this ruckus on the interwebs is making me feel spooked. <BR/><BR/>I hate this side of hockey.Katebitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12364106843885805603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-1977284124405570262008-01-15T09:58:00.000-05:002008-01-15T09:58:00.000-05:00When (or if) Campbell puts up Lidstrom like number...When (or if) Campbell puts up Lidstrom like numbers then he's worth 6 mil per. But he's only scored 4 goals! How does that make him an elite?<BR/><BR/>I agree - cut him loose and get something of value before he walks on July 1.Grumpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14733845155868971335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-54872227241162680522008-01-15T08:49:00.000-05:002008-01-15T08:49:00.000-05:00One thing that I think gets overlooked by both the...One thing that I think gets overlooked by both the fans and the players themselves is that there's a trend for players to have career years in the year before their contracts are signed. It happened last year for Roy and Vanek (though to be fair, neither one has had a long career, so they have nowhere to go but up), and its happening this year for Soupy. Then, because of that one year, the player thinks he's entitled to massive amounts of money. <BR/><BR/><I>When you throw in the fact that if we keep Soupy it could lead to us losing Pominville, the Goose or even Miller, I say au revoir </I><BR/><BR/>The core of this team was developed in Rochester at the same time. Pommers, Goose, Ryan, and Miller all were down in the minors together. I wonder if management is going to try to keep that core together for as long as possible.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01565188346733253404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-3836615070639885922008-01-14T23:00:00.000-05:002008-01-14T23:00:00.000-05:00If we lose Kalinin in the off-season, I don't thin...<I>If we lose Kalinin in the off-season, I don't think anyone will be sorry to see him go.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, if he can be signed for reasonable money (as in, about what he's making now) I would be, but I do realize that I'm in the minority there. Still, I'm an anyone. :)Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09694504731204384103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-66506466951721806902008-01-14T20:00:00.000-05:002008-01-14T20:00:00.000-05:00Becky, I'm reading Martin Brodeur's book right now...Becky, I'm reading Martin Brodeur's book right now and the first section is about his contract negotiations and how he went around his first and only agent and negotiated himself because he felt like his agent was just looking at $$$ and not listening to what he wanted. It's very interesting. And kind of refreshing.<BR/><BR/><I>(Pretend I hit enter 3X :)- in all fairness, Bfloblog did get groggy there for a while)</I><BR/><BR/>I swear it seemed like nothing was posting! I'm glad I finally gave up or it would've posted 8 or 9 times :-)Heather B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06796852014625052317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-17905449910764994862008-01-14T19:50:00.000-05:002008-01-14T19:50:00.000-05:00Perhaps if Campbell negotiated himself instead of ...Perhaps if Campbell negotiated himself instead of listening to his agent whisper in his ear "you can get more" this would be settled. Not for Ovechkin type money (ha), but settled.<BR/><BR/>(Pretend I hit enter 3X :)- in all fairness, Bfloblog did get groggy there for a while)Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13129097564605705248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-82577217528581698502008-01-14T19:13:00.000-05:002008-01-14T19:13:00.000-05:00Anne, thanks for the compliment. I'm glad you enj...Anne, thanks for the compliment. I'm glad you enjoy reading and I'm doubly glad for your comment! There are just so many things that factor into negotiations even beyond money that I hate seeing management get nailed for everything that doesn't go right. I think they probably have bungled things in the past but I think they're doing the right thing in regards to Campbell by not overpaying.<BR/><BR/>Meg, you're probably right that fans are naturally drawn to the players' side because that who we see on the ice. That's who we make the emotional connection with and it's always hard to see a player you love go, no matter what the circumstance.<BR/><BR/>Anne of SaraandAnne, as a fan I do have some affection for Soupy and I think he's fun to watch (usually). I just don't think he's 5 million plus a year fun :-)Heather B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06796852014625052317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-34722565409895273652008-01-14T18:57:00.000-05:002008-01-14T18:57:00.000-05:00My heart says I want Soupy to stay, but its just t...My heart says I want Soupy to stay, but its just this weird post-lockout love I have for the players that made me love hockey like I did before the lockout.<BR/><BR/>When you throw in the fact that if we keep Soupy it could lead to us losing Pominville, the Goose or even Miller, I say au revoir, Skating Tomato. The Blackhawks need an offensive defenseman for the PP and they could use Soupy. I say lookout for a trade in early February.<BR/><BR/>If we lose Kalinin in the off-season, I don't think anyone will be sorry to see him go. Sekera had some good ice time earlier in the season (he also had some bad ice time, but i digress), its reasonable to think that he might be full-time roster-ready by next season.<BR/><BR/>Anne of SaraandAnneS(h)arahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09482296327118544652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-65346174497474336722008-01-14T18:44:00.000-05:002008-01-14T18:44:00.000-05:00I definitely agree that there's a double standard ...I definitely agree that there's a double standard when it comes to the fans views on players vs. management. I think it's probably because it's the players who we watch and cheer for.<BR/><BR/>Mark, I also agree that I hate public posturing--on either side--about contracts. I'd much rather it remain private.Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09694504731204384103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-17901087949018932342008-01-14T17:34:00.000-05:002008-01-14T17:34:00.000-05:00I'll join you with the Man, Heather. I get so frus...I'll join you with the Man, Heather. I get so frustrated with people who think it's all on management when a player isn't re-signed. There are actually two sides, and maybe Sabres management is making fair offers, but they aren't exactly what Campbell wants. He's allowed to reject or counter, and the team is allowed to do the same! It's also reasonable for Campbell to want to see what he can get from up to 30 potential employers instead of taking what his current employer offers. <BR/><BR/>I'm also with you on the Hecht/Kalinin/Campbell choice.<BR/><BR/>Great blog, btw.Anne Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09663173982137377432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-21334996689347360112008-01-14T16:11:00.000-05:002008-01-14T16:11:00.000-05:00Soupy has rubbed me the wrong way with his public ...Soupy has rubbed me the wrong way with his public posturing about his contract. Say what you will about Chris and Danny, but at least they kept everything private.<BR/><BR/>As in the case with Marty, now that the Sabres know Soupy probably won't come back, I expect some kind of trade.Mark Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04495690715950782958noreply@blogger.com