tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post2661093847107532102..comments2023-11-03T09:36:40.604-04:00Comments on Top Shelf: Buzz Bissinger is an Angry, Close-Minded JackassHeather B.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06796852014625052317noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-36732797623373088232008-05-07T07:12:00.000-04:002008-05-07T07:12:00.000-04:00Sharpie, I did hear that! I meant to post about i...Sharpie, I did hear that! I meant to post about it last night and never got around to it. Any day you can mix hockey and Star Wars (and heck, LotR too) is a good day in my book :-DHeather B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06796852014625052317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-77802820654821738142008-05-07T00:01:00.000-04:002008-05-07T00:01:00.000-04:00You probably know this by now, but the Sabres sign...You probably know this by now, but the Sabres signed The Hobbit to a 3 year deal this afternoon. I'm just excited because I managed to use Yoda in a Sabres post.TheSharpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14797104769757754691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-82408214841696718232008-05-04T20:58:00.000-04:002008-05-04T20:58:00.000-04:00We're cleaning the garage over here and I found a ...We're cleaning the garage over here and I found a picture and some Jaromir Jagr cards. I'll save them for you because I know how much you loooooove the Rangers now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-34488441418081005792008-05-03T18:08:00.000-04:002008-05-03T18:08:00.000-04:00I was really surprised by Bissinger's vitriol when...I was really surprised by Bissinger's vitriol when I watched that video the other day. Way to back up his argument that traditional journalism is classy and blogging is trashy! His fear was palpable and I give Leitch a lot of credit for not rising to the bait. <BR/><BR/>It's too bad those paragons of journalistic excellence, Costas and Bissinger, couldn't bring themselves to demonstrate any of that wonderful talent on the show. All that ranting about good journalists being unbiased, but there was an awful lot of bias on display from those two. <BR/><BR/>I think amy really hit it on the head regarding the quick response. Traditional print journalists have no clue about that rapid response and they aren't prepared to handle it. Bloggers are either able to fire back in the same vein, or their skins are thick enough that they can blow it off. Same for the guys on radio shows--someone's going to call quickly to disagree with them, but they're ready for it. Print journalists might get a nasty letter to the editor, and those are probably easy enough to avoid, plus there's no need to respond. Unfortunately for them, hiding under their papers and cursing bloggers won't slow the rise of the blogosphere. I think most fans, and plenty of writers, think that's good--the more information that's out there, the better for everyone. Too bad Bissinger can't see that.Anne Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09663173982137377432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-19352737343756831832008-05-03T17:35:00.000-04:002008-05-03T17:35:00.000-04:00You could tell exactly what was going to happen as...You could tell exactly what was going to happen as soon as the intro started to roll. A dim room, a blogger with his back to us and his hat pulled over his eyes, pages and pages in rapid succession flying over his computer screen. It was like a news at 11 special report on how bloggers are going to rape your kids if you don't get the lead based paint out of your hotel room.twoeightninehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04987466280583349784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-1289144125842445352008-05-03T16:27:00.000-04:002008-05-03T16:27:00.000-04:00Becky, if I can find a job where I can write whate...Becky, if I can find a job where I can write whatever I want about whatever I want, I'm there, press access or no.<BR/><BR/><I>You know what? I think you're full of shit. This blog is nothing but cruel to Bucky and that is just wrong or something.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, I suppose I can't argue with that :P But Buzz and Bob said bloggers and journalists are <I>supposed</I> to hate each other! I'm just living up to expectations!<BR/><BR/>coolman, thanks! And I think you're definitely right that a lot of the problem is older guys not wanting change and more importantly not really taking the time to understand the change. I understand the panel was focused on Deadspin because Will Leitch was one of the guests but Deadspin is ONE blog and it's a blog that is mostly written for a certain audience. You can't disregard an entire medium based on one or two samples. That's like me refusing to read Bissinger's <I>Friday Night Lights</I> because I once read a book about a high school football team but didn't care for it.<BR/><BR/><I>But seriously, it's preposterous of Buzz to be holding up the golden standard of sports journalism and then criticizing bloggers for not meeting that standard, as if somehow everyone in the professional field does, too.</I><BR/><BR/>Exactly. And Schnookie, that's a perfect example. Am I going to stop reading ALL newspapers and say the whole industry should be tossed because of one irresponsible journalist? No, of course not. That would be ridiculous.<BR/><BR/><I>Regarding the Buffalo News blogs, there's one particular writer who seems to take feedback especially hard. (I think you could guess who it is.)</I><BR/><BR/>Amy, I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same guy :-D <BR/><BR/>I guess commenting makes it easier for the jackasses to get through especially on TBN where there's no registration or email verification or anything. It takes 30 seconds to leave a stupid, insulting comment and then there's no accountability whereas maybe people who take the time to write emails or letters are a little more reasonable. (Maybe.) And I think there is something to the idea that commenters feed off of each other, especially on a site as large as TBN. If a few comments are negative or derogatory the overall tone can move very quickly in that direction and commenters who might feel differently are less likely to wade in. That could be tough to ignore. I'm not writing the entries and <I>I</I> find it tough to ignore.<BR/><BR/>I imagine some of it is personality too though. I guess no mater how long you've been writing, some people are going to be able to ignore criticism especially when it's obviously intended to just be cutting or hurtful and some people are going to take it more personally. <BR/><BR/>Whatever the reason, I think the differences are interesting.Heather B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06796852014625052317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-71636112204887605202008-05-03T14:38:00.000-04:002008-05-03T14:38:00.000-04:00I do think that some old-school journalists are ju...<I>I do think that some old-school journalists are just not sure what to make of comments at all though.</I><BR/><BR/>I think for a lot of them, it's a shock at how immediate the response level is. Before the internet, time passed before readers responded to an article in the printed paper. Now, if an article or blog entry is posted at 10am, there's feedback by 10:01am. It can be jarring. <BR/><BR/>Regarding the Buffalo News blogs, there's one particular writer who seems to take feedback especially hard. (I think you could guess who it is.) Responding snidely to the feedback in his blog entries is just feeding the crazies. It doesn't do anything to add to the discussion.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01565188346733253404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-61956647898248483442008-05-03T13:40:00.000-04:002008-05-03T13:40:00.000-04:00I was all kinds of het up about what a bloviating ...I was all kinds of het up about what a bloviating jackass Buzz was in this piece until I decided the whole thing was kind of disingenuously set up by Costas -- I mean, they talk in this segment about how no one over 50 understands or reads blogs, but let's be honest here. Did anyone <EM>under</EM> 50 know Costas had that show? Well, now we all do. Well played, Costas, well played.<BR/><BR/>But seriously, it's preposterous of Buzz to be holding up the golden standard of sports journalism and then criticizing bloggers for not meeting that standard, as if somehow everyone in the professional field does, too. Like, say, John Dellapina at the NY <EM>Daily News</EM>, the guy who wrote a sensationalist story about Sean Avery going into cardiac arrest, then literally erased the story when it was proven wrong, then irrationally lashed out at his professional colleagues when he should have been explaining himself. Even the very worst among us in the blogosphere can hold ourselves up to that professional standard, can't we?Schnookiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461060252470084525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-52743193105058112062008-05-03T10:47:00.001-04:002008-05-03T10:47:00.001-04:00Nicely written piece. I happen to agree with ever...Nicely written piece. I happen to agree with everything that you said and wanted to add that the same type of "good journalism" that comes from having that extra access could be given to bloggers who have earned a reputation of being well written and genuinely good. If you look at the USRT guys, they are the only Buffalo bloggers around that have press access because of the fact they work for the Artvoice. Their material is just as good with quotes from players and coaches as compared to this site, BfloBlog, and the countless other great Buffalo blogs that grace my reader every morning. <BR/><BR/>Press access does not make a good blogger nor does it make a good article. Many of these closed minded writers are just scared of the fact that their art is starting to disintegrate and they need to accept the changing of the time and not discredit it. There is a reason that less and less people are getting their news from a newspaper and more and more from the internet. And we seem to be the ones getting the information out.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14576048669519983317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-22722931853013079352008-05-03T10:47:00.000-04:002008-05-03T10:47:00.000-04:00You know what? I think you're full of shit. This b...You know what? I think you're full of shit. This blog is nothing but cruel to Bucky and that is just wrong or something.twoeightninehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04987466280583349784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6099439052359653516.post-52930037006850661372008-05-03T06:34:00.000-04:002008-05-03T06:34:00.000-04:00I think being an opinion writer for a newspaper wo...I think being an opinion writer for a newspaper would be sort of like a dream job. But then you'd probably still have editors suggesting topics and banning or modifying others (yes, I do think that happens).<BR/><BR/>Bloggers are their own boss. Professional writers are just jealous.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13129097564605705248noreply@blogger.com